Interview with Dziuba. Stanislav Cherchesov: I’m reading an interview with Artem Dzyuba - the football player talks like an adult

It all started at a press conference after the Zenit - Rubin match. Sergei Semak was asked the usual question for such events: does the absence of Dzyuba in the application mean that he will not play in Prague?

The head coach replied that the player had a relapse of the injury, but he had a chance to take the field on Thursday against Slavia.

A few seconds later, Boris Jodorowsky, who loves metaphorical comparisons, asked a question that lasted much longer than the answer. Already knowing that the striker had been studying according to an individual program in recent days.

American journalists, who did not believe that their compatriots had been on the Moon, once asked an astronaut: “Are you ready to swear on the Bible that you were on the Moon?” Are you ready to swear on the Bible that Dziuba’s absence is a relapse of the injury, and not a consequence of his sensational interview, which has not yet been published, but is already widely discussed? - Boris Matveevich said with a smile on his face.

Semak's face did not change at all. There was no hint that Main coach knows what he's talking about we're talking about. And he answered essentially: “First of all, I never swear by anything. This is absolutely, in my opinion, incompatible with anything. As for Dziuba, I told you, and it’s up to you to believe or not to believe. I can't make you believe anything."

What is the reason for controversy here? And if we were talking about Alexander Erokhin, Daler Kuzyaev or Leandro Paredes, no one would have paid attention to this. Even if the Argentine suddenly says in an interview how much he wants to go to Milan or Barcelona. And it is so obvious that he is not going to play for Zenit for the rest of his life. And that's okay.

But when the conversation turns to the figure of Artem Dzyuba, guesses, assumptions and justified expectations of something grandiose are inevitable. Many people themselves remember his remarks about Unai Emery, Valery Karpin, Roberto Mancini.

It just so happens that Dziuba divides coaches into “his” and “not his”. The first definitely include Andre Villas-Boas, Miodrag Bozovic, Sergei Semak. Yes, I have no doubt that the player and the head coach have excellent contact. There are more specialists who did not accept the character of a forward. Mircea Lucescu is somewhere in the middle.

1. As far as I understand, it was and should be released in the next couple of weeks

2. There will be no remarks that could cast doubt on the player’s future at Zenit.

Because Dziuba himself has repeatedly found himself in history because of his overly sincere desire to tell the truth. I think he learned from that. Therefore, he will not allow statements to appear in which the people on whom his future depends will be somehow discredited.

The story of Alexander Kerzhakov, which Dzyuba himself witnessed, has not yet been forgotten. Because of “likes” and ambiguous statements, the main striker in history for the last year and a half mostly sat on the bench and was not needed by Andre Villas-Boas.

It’s bad manners to remember Denis Glushakov.

From the outside, it seems that Dzyuba has really changed over this year. First of all, in the perception of oneself. He understands that he often becomes a leader in search engines, and in many ways is now associated with him Russian football. Igor Akinfeev has graduated, Kuzyaev and Roman Zobnin have not yet matured, and Denis Cheryshev and Alexander Golovin are far away.

Therefore, what Dziuba says is perceived almost as the ultimate truth. And it doesn’t matter - about the situation in the club, the national team - all this is projected onto the entire Russian football.

Therefore, I expect a bright but conflict-free interview about working with Mancini, the period in Tula, returning to Zenit, immediate goals and much more.

By the way, he is not flying to Prague due to injury.

Here Semak doesn’t even have to swear.

Zenit head coach Sergei Semak talks about the results of the meeting with Rubin in the 17th round of the RPL (1:2).

– What we expected is what we got. The game is not easy. It is clear that Rubin was waiting for our mistakes and standards. It was both one and the other. Coming back from 0:2 was difficult, but possible. They scored one, there were more chances. Well done for showing character in a difficult match and trying to turn the game in a different direction. The result cannot be encouraging. Second defeat in a row. Very funny mistakes for the second match in a row affect the result. It is difficult to gather strength after missing goals. Today we played like this, we will prepare for the next meeting.

– Why did Shatov come out from the very beginning, and not the same Zabolotny, who would have been more dangerous with set pieces?

– We had a lot of tall players with standards no less than Rubin’s. I wanted the light forwards to play more actively. In the 1st half it wasn’t quite possible to create any urgency. In the 2nd half we started playing better, the match looked different.

– A couple of days ago you said that you have an understanding of how to deal with Rubin’s corners. Please specify what exactly you understood and what didn’t work out today?

– Many teams use this kind of play; there is no need to let the opponent get ahead and block the goalkeeper. They prevented Lunev from coming out, he couldn’t get to the ball. We hoped that he would come out. Unfortunately, there was confusion at this moment. They fouled unjustifiably in simple situations, especially at the beginning of the 1st half, realizing that this was what Rubin needed. The chance of scoring from a set piece is higher than from a field goal. They played carelessly. Let's analyze it and see.

– I got the impression that Lunev played uncertainly. Tell me your opinion on his game?

– Yes, the second match in which he made mistakes. A difficult season, perhaps psychological fatigue has accumulated and hence those elementary mistakes that are unusual for him.

– Does Dzyuba’s absence mean that he won’t play in Prague?

– He suffered from a recurrence of the injury and was not able to play today. As for Prague, we will decide tomorrow. There is such a possibility.

– Ivanovich in the role of Dzyuba at the end of the match - is it out of despair or a tactical preparation?

– All the attacking potential was on the field. It was necessary to do something additional to increase the pressure. There was no point in playing 3 defenders, so we played 2. Alas, we couldn't get anything out of it, although it added some spice.

– The American press, which did not believe that their compatriots were on the Moon, once asked the astronaut: “Are you ready to swear on the Bible that you were on the Moon?” Are you ready to swear on the Bible that Dziuba’s absence is a recurrence of damage, and not a consequence of his interview, which has not yet appeared in print, but is already widely discussed?

- First of all, I never swear on anything. This, in my opinion, is completely incompatible with anything. Regarding Dzyuba, I told you, but it’s up to you to believe or not to believe. I can't force you to believe anything.

– What’s wrong with Erokhin? How serious is his damage?

- Let's see. Maybe it was an offense that deserved a straight red card. He played quite dangerously, there was a high risk of injury. The moment is very unpleasant. God grant that there is not something very serious.

– What rating would you give the team for the 1st stage of the season?

– The team is in 1st place in the Russian Championship, and is in 1st place in the Europa League. It’s not for me to give ratings, that’s for sure. There is a bitter feeling because we could have played better. Eat good matches, there is not much. Considering the problems that exist, this is a completely normal result.

– There are many rumors that Paredes and Ivanovic may leave the team. Please tell us your opinion on this matter and share your plans for the winter transfer window.

– What often appears in the media does not cause anything other than a smile. Sometimes it’s such nonsense that you don’t even know where it comes from. Regarding Paredes and Ivanovich, there are no rumors or official information. They are team players just like anyone else. Regarding those who will remain or may leave for some time, we will discuss separately for each player. They don't intend to keep anyone. If an opportunity arises to strengthen this or that position, we will also take advantage of this.

– With the release of Marchisio, there was more meaning in the attack, interesting combinational solutions. Perhaps it is necessary to use his intellectual and technical potential from the first minutes?

“That’s what we want to do.” If a football player comes out and shows good game, he gets the opportunity to play further. Claudio played excellently, we counted and count on him. We are only happy if he demonstrates his skills, which is what he did today.

– Very important 3 points, although they didn’t come easy. There is satisfaction from the result,” Kazan coach Kurban Berdyev began the press conference.

– There were a lot of young people in the squad. How did this affect the game?

– I am grateful to the Lord that the young students came out for the first time and won a victory over the deserved leader of the championship. There is satisfaction. Abdullin asked for a replacement, so I wouldn’t change him. Stepanov came out well. Sagitov played excellently.

– According to Baburin, an unexpected decision. How do you justify it?

– With us, whoever is stronger plays. Bukharov was sick, Sagitov played and did it well.

– According to Baburin: did the fact that he knows most of the Zenit players play a role?

“He looks pretty good in training.” Already in the home match we wanted to play it. He really is the best. Place of birth has nothing to do with it.

– Can we say that today the teacher outplayed the student?

- It's a coincidence. Sergey is a strong coach, the best of the young ones in the Russian Federation. You need patience. 1st place is his merit. At the beginning of the championship, I noted that Zenit would become the champion by a wide margin.

– Regarding Sorokin. How did the student of St. Petersburg football achieve such a result?

– Again, hints about the place of birth. When he looks good, we trust him and vice versa. That he was dangerous on set pieces was clear when he came to us. His skills as a striker at set pieces are quite well developed. You can’t teach this, it’s from God.

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- It seems that right now in Russia there are no more adored people than you and Putin. Agree?

I don't know. I hear many people talking about this. It's nice.

No, well, this... It seems to me that we have already outgrown this moment. I don't quite understand it, but I don't blame it. That is, I can play some big games, RPGs like The Witcher. Now we were playing Kingdom Come: Deliverance with friends - we completed it together. Cool! You create a character, you survive.

- What is the difference between young football players and you old players?

We grew up on the streets: we played Cossack robbers, and played football from morning to evening. And the current generation has too many social networks, too many computers, too many of these games. They don't go out and don't communicate with each other. Character is still being strengthened on the street. That is, you did not come out of there pampered: you had to survive, your elders could offend you - you had to be able to fight back. Try to run after the same Cossack robbers, and if they catch you, what will they do to you! And when, on the contrary, you drive, you think: “Just get caught by me!” I think this is much cooler! And they played hide and seek.

Even now, I go out into the yard with my children and try to gather all the kids and play something. The main thing is to go in for sports, run, play football, basketball - it doesn’t matter. Movement, movement, movement! Movement is life. And sitting near the computer and moving the mouse - it seems to me that this is uninteresting.

- Are you planning to send your children to football?

Well, I have the eldest (Dziuba has two sons - Nikita and Maxim. - Note ed.) no, no, yes he does. Not that I plan to. You just need to be active. Whether they want to go to professional football or not is entirely up to everyone.

-Have you ever fought on the street yourself?

Certainly!

- Tell me about the most striking incident.

Don't want. With age, you come to the conclusion that it is better to resolve any conflict with words, but sometimes it happens. But let's not talk about that. Let's say... No, I am sometimes a very aggressive and hot-tempered person, so there are different episodes, but it is better not to fight. Let's not talk about violence.

- Is there any trait in you that you struggle with or that you don’t like?

Well, there is one trait in me that I struggle with. On the other hand, maybe this is me. I won’t say what it is...

Well, I guess sometimes I'm very aggressive. Sometimes I am very impulsive and hot-tempered, but with age I began to extinguish my anger, this is also an art - it only makes you stronger.

- What’s the thrill of being Artem Dzyuba?

For as long as I can remember, I have always been myself. I always had my own opinion on everything. I am always positive, I have never been tempted to join anyone there. You can convince me, but if it is justified and constructive, but in fact it is very difficult to do this. And I dream of meeting a person who is stronger than me mentally and psychologically. This is really my dream.

- Preferably in this bomber jacket?

Ha ha ha!

- By the way, what is the phrase encrypted on the sleeve?

- “You have to fight to the end. Fight to be the best". This is from the movie “Braveheart” with Mel Gibson about the Scots, about the highlanders - the British squeezed them there. An ordinary peasant rebelled. Others would have already hung out the white flag and surrendered, but he fought to the last, they betrayed him, but he still stuck to his line.

In a conversation with journalists, including RIA Novosti correspondent Vasily Konov Jr., Cherchesov explained the invitation of the forward, the absence of midfielder Denis Glushakov from the main list, expressed regret over the injuries of midfielder Oleg Shatov and goalkeeper Alexander Selikhov, and also touched upon many other topics.

I have an excellent relationship with Glushakov, but there is a sporting principle

- Stanislav Salamovich, tell us about the selection of players for the extended squad?

We are doing a lot of analysis about how long we have been working together. We look at those who have already played for us, and at those who have been showing themselves recently. We have reached the finish line, and we must hire those who can fulfill our requirements.

There was one adjustment literally only an hour before submission - Eduard Bezuglov called and said that (Spartak goalkeeper Alexander) Selikhov had an Achilles injury. I called (Mikhail) Vartapetov, and they confirmed to me that there was no chance (of playing). The squad will leave for FIFA on Monday. I would not like any changes to occur on this list.

You announced two lineups. 28 players will train in Novogorsk and Austria, but how will the second group of seven players train?

We have approved two plans. The first is those who travel to Austria. The second is those who do not go to training camps. They have a different program that they must carry out wherever they are. They will be in touch. Well, this is our internal affairs. On May 14 there will be a meeting of the technical committee, where I will talk about the team’s preparation.

Spartak midfielder Denis Glushakov was on the list of seven players. Why is the same Krasnodar midfielder Yuri Gazinsky better than Glushakov?

There is the current state. Gazinsky was with us, but he was not called up because he did not show the required level. But we are watching everyone, and in the last seven rounds he showed the required level. And the other one is the opposite. This is normal. The same can be said about (Artem) Dzyuba and (Anton) Zabolotny. One played before, the other now.

As for Glushakov, we thought about this decision for more than one minute. This is an honored football player. Journalists write about the penalty that he missed (Tosno in the semi-finals of the Russian Cup), but for us this is not a defining moment. We have a great relationship, but there is a sporting principle.

Explain the choice of opponents for test matches before the World Cup? The Russian national team will play against the Austrians on May 30 in Innsbruck and on June 5 in Moscow against the Turks.

With the Austrians - because we are there at a gathering. This is the viewer, this is a certain excitement. We have made small adjustments compared to the preparations before Euro 2016. Then there were empty stadiums at matches with the Czechs in Innsbruck, in Monaco (with the Serbs). When they asked me who to play with in Austria, I said only with the Austrians. And the Turks are somewhat (in style) reminiscent of the Uruguayans, plus we “owe” them a game (for a friendly match in 2016).

Shatov could have made it into the squad if not for the injury

- Another midfielder Oleg Shatov improved after his loan to Krasnodar.

We watched Shatov. He could very well make it into the squad. There was a desire, we wanted it, but he was injured in recent matches.

CSKA forward Fedor Chalov scored a hat-trick in the last round against Arsenal Tula (6:0). How would you evaluate the attacker's actions?

According to Chalov, this is not a matter of three goals, but that is also good. We are watching the football player. He played well at the (winter) training camp and stood out, so he continued the season. If (Konstantin) Kuchaev had not had an injury, it would have been another positive headache for me.

- Railway worker Alexey Miranchuk is listed as a striker on your list.

Miranchuk practically played as our second striker. I think this suits him better on our team. At Lokomotiv he plays both in this position and as a winger. When you play as a winger, you need to work more on defense, which was not his strong quality before.

- CSKA midfielder Alan Dzagoev missed the last matches due to injury.

Alan has already volunteered often. And Alan has been training with the main team for a week now. He could have played against Arsenal, but he had three cards and they decided not to let him go when the score was 5:0. As far as I know, he is preparing for the game with Anzhi.

Explain the choice of goalkeepers? With Igor Akinfeev and Vladimir Gabulov, everything is obvious; in this situation, they are more interested in Soslan Dzhanaev and Andrey Lunev, who, by the way, is injured.

Lunev trains in a general group. Before the game with Lokomotiv we did some research, everything was fine. On Thursday we had an examination - and everything was fine too. There are no complaints. At Zenit, they probably won’t risk him in last match championship.

Dzhanaev has fully recovered from his injury. Plus, we know Dzhanaev firsthand. Sasha Selikhov started with me at Amkar, but he came for the first time and didn’t feel very comfortable. And every time it gets better. We are cautiously waiting to see how Chalov and (Alexander) Tashaev will feel. We are waiting for everyone, but there may be different situations with adaptation.

I didn’t like that Dziuba said that he would be a spare

By the way, I would like to ask about the purpose of calling Chalov and Tashaev. Are these players called up just to feel the atmosphere?

No. I repeat, we have already reached the finish line. In March, we played with the French and Brazilians, essentially without games in the championship. If Tashaev had played like this for several matches, then we might have called him up in March.

It’s a pity that (Kirill) Panchenko, who was called up from the FNL, was also injured. I think he needed to play for another month to get into the necessary shape. So there are no advances. If you prove yourself, the doors are open.

- Do you have any language barriers with army defender Mario Fernandez?

This is the case when you want to play, you have to talk. But jokes aside. He understands, but cannot speak. But we have Paulino Granero, who speaks Russian well. But language is not the most important aspect. Of course, I would like him to talk, but...

There is currently a shortage of central defenders in the national team due to the injuries of Viktor Vasin and Georgy Dzhikia. Will Mario Fernandez be used as a right center?

I spoke with Viktor Gancharenko back in the winter (about this), and we already used Mario in this position during training process. But I must tell you that a person can, but a certain time must pass for him to feel comfortable. An intuitive machine should work.

Speaking about injuries, (Roman) Zobnin said that he was not ready enough (after the injury). But lately he has been gaining shape. By the way, Jikia is for normal person healthy But he never trained in a general group or received any load.

- Explain the challenge of forward Artem Dzyuba, who was loaned from Zenit by Arsenal Tula?

I don’t know who thought that we had some kind of conflicts. He is a grown man and he himself says that he did not prove himself at Zenit and was not called up (to the national team). Even before the March matches, I said that we didn’t call up either Dziuba or Shatov, because they just moved to new teams and had to keep them out for 10 days... I hope I did the right thing. I read his interview, he talks like an adult. The only thing I didn't like was that he said he would be a backup. We don't have any spares.

Arshavin of ten years ago would be happy to see on my team

The play of Zenit St. Petersburg midfielder Alexander Erokhin causes a lot of criticism. Why did you decide to call this football player?

He has been playing as a second supporter for almost the entire season and doesn’t feel comfortable enough. He feels more comfortable in the inside three. There are things that need to be fixed. And I agree that it is perceived quite critically.

- Who will be the captain of the Russian team at the World Championships?

Our team captain is Akinfeev.

- What result would be acceptable for you at the World Championships?

It’s not that it’s impossible to answer this question... There is hurdling. If a hurdler thinks about the last hurdle, he will definitely stumble at the first. In weightlifting, you must first take the starting weight. Here's ours First stage- group.

Many are interested in the possibility of calling up Kazakh footballer Kairat Andrei Arshavin, who will turn 37 in May.

I saw him at the training camp in Turkey, but we didn’t talk. This is a truly respected football player. And when such questions are asked, you need to choose the right words. There is a time and a place. Andrey Arshavin is a big player. I was in London and discussed this with Arsene Wenger. Now there are other players who are on the rise and deserve a call. Andrey made his contribution to both his club and the national team. Let's leave everything alone. Although I would gladly see the Arshavin of ten years ago on my team.


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1. “The pilot on the plane first announced that we were in Portugal, not Spain.”

There was a little pun: the pilot on the plane first announced that we were in Portugal, and 10 minutes later, when we were already celebrating, thinking that it would be better to get to Portugal, he apologized. He says it’s Spain after all. The first reaction is, if not decadence, then slight frustration. We understood that we would have a game like this against Spain, which in the end happened, that we would be practically without the ball. This is the strongest team in the world in ball control. We were a little upset - with Portugal, we probably had more chances to attack. But Stanislav Salamovich said: “You know, guys, I listened to you a little. I think you are a little wrong. It’s not a fact that it would have been easier with Portugal. We have an understanding of how and at the expense of what Spain will play and what to oppose it.”

2. “I saw the banner “We play for you” and didn’t understand who our optimist is.”

When Akinfeev parried the decisive blow, I remember how he rushed and jumped over the side. Then - not so much. It was so crazy there. They couldn't believe it happened. Most of the guys were crying with happiness. Half of the staff and those who worked with the national team did the same. By the way, when I saw the “We are playing for you” banner, I didn’t understand it at all! “I think: who is this optimist among us that prepared it in advance?” Honestly, I didn't know about him. That was the message, and the team said this phrase among themselves. But there was not a word about the banner. So those who made it are well done! And the whole “bench”. It gave me such emotions! Later, by the way, I saw in the video how happy Sasha Erokhin was. Looking at this, I thought: is it really him? It was very cool!


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3. “England was within our power – it’s incredibly disappointing”

When Fernandez scored, I loved him so much that for me Mario went through the roof. This is despite the fact that he already spent the entire tournament at an unrealistic level. In general, many people amazed me. Either Fernandez, or Golovin, who revealed himself even more, or Zobnin, or Kutepov, or Cheryshev, who scored amazing goals. Sergei Ignashevich, at the age at which he was buried, simply cemented the defense. I think Mandzukic, Cavani and Suarez were generally in shock, they didn’t even know that the man was 38 years old. Someone says that Alexander Samedov did not have the best championship, but how he fought and how many interceptions he made while carrying out the installations! Everyone sacrificed something for the team. I'm very proud of all the guys. Collective! Gang! This is forever, for life. England was within our power, so it’s incredibly disappointing. It is clear that France and Belgium are the most strong teams World Championship. But since this happened, it means it had to be so.

4. “Before the penalty shootout, I didn’t know we were being taken off”

Of course, I didn’t even know we were being filmed. He said what was in his soul, in his heart. I haven’t even rewatched it, I don’t like looking at myself at all - I’m embarrassed, to be honest. They also said something before Spain, but such things are done on emotions, when you feel that something needs to be done.


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5. “I wanted to go out and beat Vida into the ground”

On the one hand, the Croats won me over with their stubbornness. Everyone thought that the British would sweep them away, but they moved on. But because of Vida and Vukojevic... Their performance really infuriated us even on the bus. The first reaction was that I wanted to go out and beat Vida into the ground. But then they cooled down a little. Then he apologized, so I don’t hold any grudge against him. He doesn't know what he's doing. And before the final I was calm - whoever wins will win. But the Croats evoked sympathy.

6. “Smolov was and remains the leader of our team”

I understood that before the championship the bet was placed on Fedor Smolov, and so it was. He is the main striker and played all the matches. Fedya was number one and the main star of our team, and he remained one of the leaders. I didn’t even come on as a substitute in the final test match before the World Cup. So I wanted to get a foothold in the squad first, and when I made it to the final list, like any athlete, and I am an ambitious person, I tried to make the most of every minute that was given.


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7. “A boy came up near the train and hugged his leg tightly.”

Now I feel great pleasure when grandmothers recognize me; children began to play in the courtyards not as Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi, but as football players of the Russian national team. This is the most amazing thing that can happen. When I was leaving for St. Petersburg on a Sapsan and standing near the train, a boy came up to me, hugged me tightly by the leg, and, without letting go for about five minutes, excitedly told me that he had started playing football, that he would try and in the future would become a player for the Russian national team. To be honest, I almost shed tears again.

8. “I watched a video of grandpa running around the apartment - it’s priceless!”

The main thing is that the whole country united and turned its face to football. People saw that our sport is alive. Our profession has always been treated this way... There were a lot of films about hockey and other sports, but football was always something like that, bypassed. And then everyone started watching it, started writing and congratulating him. I didn’t really like Instagram, but now I read everything there, as well as text messages. People who did not understand football began to watch it with their grandparents. I watched a video of a grandfather running around the apartment and shouting: “Yes! We did it!". This is priceless, incredibly cool!

9. “After this spit in the soul, I took the bit between my teeth”

It’s no secret that first of all I am grateful to Arsenal Tula. For the millionth time I say thank you to Guram Adzhoev, the governor of the Tula region Alexey Dyumin, Miodrag Bozhovich and my teammates. I’m glad that they believed in me and invited me to the national team. I clung to the last to get into the team, and felt great happiness when the list was announced. I am proud that I managed to go all the way from the very bottom, when no one believed in me and everyone turned their backs. I saw a lot of different videos in the spirit of “Dziuba ended up as a football player.” After this spit in the soul, I bit the bit and began to prove, first of all to myself, that I could.

10. “Out of great respect for Semak, we went to meet him”

We only got six days of rest. The guys from the team asked to call Sergei Bogdanovich, talk to him about how, what, what. He said that they would like to have more rest, because they were very tired mentally and physically - after all, 50 days at the training camp. Sergei Bogdanovich expressed his plans and ideas. Out of great respect for him, we decided that we would meet him halfway. Both as a human being and in general, he said that it would be right if we arrived - that means we should go, there is no need to ask unnecessary questions. Everyone respects this man very much.